Water Hero - Captain/Commander/Pirate

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Water Hero - Captain/Commander/Pirate

Postby Moonknight » Fri Oct 17, 2014 3:32 pm

Trying to think of a new hero option, one could be a water-specific hero.

Possible bonuses:
-Water Terrain Morale (or Fear if Pirate): Maybe this is only for units in boats
-Plus movement for boats
-Cheaper boat upgrade for units
-Commander/Pirate ship option that would be an even higher boat available (increase max strength/movement)
-Ability to navigate the top boat option through any water (open seas/shore)
-Good pillaging (especially if Pirate)
-Starts with good UL but caps out at mid-levels (so that it will be hard for level 3 ruins)
-Good view range in boat
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Re: Water Hero - Captain/Commander/Pirate

Postby KGB » Fri Oct 17, 2014 4:35 pm

I think the Pirate is the way to go.

Heroes normally only get Leadership/Chaos. So it would have to be Water Terrain Chaos for a Pirate.

Extra movement for boats is a waste. Extra movement (like Rangers +stack move) already works for boats just as it does for other units. So a +move that only worked for boats would be hugely weak compared to the regular +move that works for everything.

Definitely Cheaper Boat upgrades. Should be free given how rare it would be for just the hero stack to enter/exit water.
Definitely move rate 1 for top boat on all water terrain (river, shore, deep, shallow)
Definitely pillage equivalent to the DK.
UL equivalent to the Assassin (8 +2/level, capped at 20)

Overall though would you take this hero except on extreme water maps? He doesn't seem worth it given how limited his skill come into play on 95% of the maps.

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Re: Water Hero - Captain/Commander/Pirate

Postby smursh » Thu Oct 30, 2014 10:31 pm

I tend to agree unless the chaos bonus is for more than just water. Perhaps chaos bonus similar to the valkyrie's moral bonus so for attack on all terrains, but not on defense.

A second option is to have the chaos bonus on another terrain as well. HL gets terrain specific bonus on plains/desert/ice. Ranger on forest/swamp. Pirate could add swamp or another terrain.(Make him a viking and add chaos on ice)
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Re: Water Hero - Captain/Commander/Pirate

Postby Omen » Fri Oct 31, 2014 3:08 pm

This concept is beautiful.
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Re: Water Hero - Captain/Commander/Pirate

Postby KGB » Fri Oct 31, 2014 4:28 pm

Then call him a Reaver.

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