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Postby SnotlinG » Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:08 pm

- Crow Battle value changed from 5 to 3.
- Crow has been removed as possible startingunit for the players first 3-5 units.
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Postby MrBofa » Wed Sep 21, 2011 8:49 pm

How will that effect the minimum of battle 5 ?
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Re: Crow updates

Postby KGB » Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:03 am

Or what happens if a crow encounters a DreadKnight with his -4 combat value.

Does the crow drop to -1 and effectively become invincible since -1 will translate into the largest positive number possible.

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Postby MrBofa » Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:30 am

It\\\'s still fighting as a 5 right now, I just tested it. I also had a dread night hit a crow in one of my games still a 5. I have sent Snotlin a message about it. Maybe game minimum should be 3 now. He\\\'ll get it, he always does.
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Re: Crow updates

Postby piranha » Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:22 pm

Ok, battle limit is now 3 instead of 5.
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Re: Crow updates

Postby KGB » Thu Sep 22, 2011 4:45 pm

Out of curiosity, why did the Crow get reduced to 3 strength?

With the Crow no longer being in your initial starting units (a good idea to prevent early crow attacks on smaller maps) and the fact it can no longer carry a hero I don't see why it can't remain at 5 strength. It's certainly not unbalanced.

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Re: Crow updates

Postby kenc80 » Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:56 pm

bc 7 blessed crows with a dragon are fighting as 22s with 22 movement and thats ridiculous!
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Re: Crow updates

Postby KGB » Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:39 pm

kenc80 wrote:bc 7 blessed crows with a dragon are fighting as 22s with 22 movement and thats ridiculous!


But that's not a problem of the Crow. That's a problem of the Dragon giving such a huge bonus (12). Or it's a problem of a bless giving +5 to all units (better than a hero bonus until at least L4!). You can argue the same point about Eagles or Lt Cavalry etc.

Besides, Elves and now Scouts have anti-air skills that would still let them shoot down crows quite easily. This can be easily fixed by reducing the cost of Elves to 200 or so.

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Postby Star » Fri Sep 23, 2011 7:53 am

KGB rights
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Re: Crow updates

Postby kenc80 » Fri Sep 23, 2011 3:10 pm

KGB: But that's not a problem of the Crow. That's a problem of the Dragon giving such a huge bonus (12). Or it's a problem of a bless giving +5 to all units (better than a hero bonus until at least L4!). You can argue the same point about Eagles or Lt Cavalry etc.


I disagree about dragon bonus. Dragons are super powerful units, why not give them +12? Same with temples. I'm fine with those. I have a bigger issue with dragons getting +3 HP. thats a devastating advantage in my opinion. I do like that scouts now have AA.

BTW I just noticed you upped the cost of negative stack to 50 from 45. neg stack was my fave bonus in beta 3.
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