makmak: I am ok let me contact team mates
Wed 4, Jan 2023, 10:04 pm

smursh: bring it
Wed 4, Jan 2023, 11:51 pm

Maakepaake: I'm sorry, I made a mess with the map! I changed the starting positions into (I think) more balanced ones, and the already signed up opponents were lost. Sorry for the inconvenience! Please come back :)
Thu 5, Jan 2023, 6:46 am

Feanor: If it's the "4 Illuria" game, I still seem to be signed into it. Mind you, team that is opposing us is set to "No Parasan", not "KID"
Thu 5, Jan 2023, 5:26 pm

makmak: Since No Passaran joined this game I opened a new one
Thu 5, Jan 2023, 7:56 pm

makmak: What is the mixed war setup?
Thu 5, Jan 2023, 7:57 pm

Maakepaake: Thank you makmak! The mixed war has both teams "scattered" around the map. So, instead of single battle front between the teams, each player is kind of surrounded by enemies.
Fri 6, Jan 2023, 7:12 am

makmak: Interesting :-)
Fri 6, Jan 2023, 9:30 pm

Versace: well played, champ
Mon 2, Jan 2023, 12:01 pm

Maakepaake: The brave yeti practically gave me the dragons and turned the game to my favor. Mitalikahveille!
Mon 2, Jan 2023, 12:31 pm

Solo: Well done!
Wed 28, Dec 2022, 5:53 pm

Maakepaake: Good game! You had a very nice strategy for this one, and I was lost with it. I needed the key ambush-luck to stop you from taking all my cities.
Wed 28, Dec 2022, 10:03 pm

Igor: Hey guys, this is not honest thing when one compatriot helps to another to take the 1st place, surrendering a game on middle map less than in 5 turn. I think that to be at the top is honor, and honor can't be got by such kind of help. But we are too little comunity at the moment and this is not time to make loud statements of this... Anyway I think that Maakepaake is a very good player and can win 1v1 ladder without any help of compatriots, but with own force only. You should play more big maps I think.
Sat 24, Dec 2022, 10:58 am

Maakepaake: Good comment Igor. Versace lost all his troops (and money along the heroes) against neutrals in the beginning of the game. He felt the disadvantage of waiting for ten-ish turns to accumulate some sort of army and/or finances to get going was a great enough disadvantage to not to continue further. We did communicate about the situation, and I had a strong start going myself. What do you think we should have done in this situation? Do you feel us keeping on playing would have decreased the 16 ladder points so much that it would radically make my end position "honest"? I think part of the game is battles against neutrals, and it truly is possible to lose a game against them. I think game I did get help from neutrals. I don't think that makes my play more or less honest.
Sat 24, Dec 2022, 11:28 am

Maakepaake: ... "I think in this game I did get help from neutrals"... I meant to say.
Sat 24, Dec 2022, 11:30 am

Igor: I think that on middle or big map it always has sense to try to continue. Luck can show her back to one whom she showed her face some turns ago. On this game, count yourself: 1) Two compatriots, 2) One surrendered a game on a middle map after 4 turns, 3) Some days before the end of the season, and 4) There was a discussion on this. Hoh... no problem for me not to win the season (otherwise I didn't surrender that game to you), but will be sad to know that the win in this ladder season will have if not bad but at least strange smell... As far as you discussed this each other, you could stop him from surrendering. Now it is already as it is. Forget. Happy New Year!
Sat 24, Dec 2022, 6:23 pm

Maakepaake: I have to disagree on the "it always makes sense to try to continue" -part, but I agree on the other parts of your argument. Yes, the two players were from the same country; yes, the game ended on turn 4; yes, season ends soon and yes, we did discuss what was going on during the game. I actually do enjoy the social aspects of this game, it makes it more fun to know a bit who you are playing against, I think. I count all those arguments together and I get nothing special out of it. You seem determined to sum them up as "cheating has happened!". That is very disrespectful towards both me and Versace. To avoid such disrespectful moments in the future, I hereby promise I will in the future try my best to not to have my games end before specific amount of turns have passed (please, Igor, specify the amount below and I will act accordingly). I will make sure I will not surrender before that turn if I'm losing, and I will also try my best to convince my opponents to not to surrender if I am winning. As an extremely experienced player, you Igor could help me (a newbie) out by letting me know all the unwritten rules that should be followed in order to play this game without accusations of being a fucking dick. That certainly is NOT what I am looking for by playing this game.
Sun 25, Dec 2022, 9:08 am

Igor: Maakepaake, there are some things which are normal when you play as most players do. But when you claim on 1st place on a ladder you are already not one of all but one of two or may be of three who also claims. In this case you are under bright light and all can look on you through a loupe. All you did in that game doesn't matter in the middle part of a season. But in some days before the end of the season, when you got such win which gives you enough pointes to become 1st - this is something that shouldn't be, I think. If you just get pleasure of game itself, this doesn't matter, but if you wish to get not only pleasure but also honor of being 1st in a season, such wins shouldn't be, at least in the end of the season when such wins gives you the win in all the season. I think so.
Sun 25, Dec 2022, 3:38 pm

Maakepaake: I just get pleasure of game itself. I used to accept the game ending when one of the players felt there was no more excitement in the map as one of the players was sufficiently certain to win. I felt that was normal; something that does not increase or decrease the amount of honor in a person no matter the date, the ranking or nationality of the players involved.
Sun 25, Dec 2022, 3:52 pm

Versace: Igor, as you may remember, I have played warbarons from the beginning, and never has someone accused me of cheating/colluding. I lost all units and two heroes by turn 3 or 4, there is no way to win against a decent opponent after that. Wait a few turns to have a ram and couple of light infantry... give me a break. Anyway, go be salty somewhere else.
Sun 25, Dec 2022, 4:20 pm

Igor: When you are near of the top of a ladder you should think not only as it was implied but also as it was looking. The facts show that such a win can give 1st place on a ladder. Better if it wasn't happen. But it already is and we can't change it. I think, better to be careful with such wins in the last week of a season in future, guys.
Sun 25, Dec 2022, 5:44 pm

Versace: Yea I don't give a flying fuck what you think, everyone knows you are intolerable. Don't comment here anymore.
Sun 25, Dec 2022, 11:55 pm

Igor: Ok, this will be widely known after the season will be ended. Any collusion shouldn't have place in Warbarons. I will not read/write something here anymore.
Mon 26, Dec 2022, 6:26 pm

Versace: good
Mon 26, Dec 2022, 6:43 pm

Igor: Sorry for delay, too busy in working days this month. All my games were on pause. That was true wish of luck. But I was still feeling that could do something, may be my 15% chance or so. But nop, last turn showed that no chance any more.
Fri 23, Dec 2022, 9:17 am

Igor: You were better this game. May be I made wrong choice to play without Sorceress or loosing to battles to neutrals with 86-87%, as it is often for me. You played very well, good deserved win. Should be I lost the game when you took the city having Ghost production.
Fri 23, Dec 2022, 9:21 am

Maakepaake: Yeah, I am starting to feel this map is more one-dimensional than I originally thought. After a few games on it, it seems like focusing on ruins is the "only" way to go. High-reward ruins combined with a bit too large map with too few possibilities to level up heroes for other strategies, I guess.
Fri 23, Dec 2022, 9:34 am

Solo: gg
Thu 22, Dec 2022, 1:26 pm

Maakepaake: Great game! You were in a very strong position. Luckily luck was on my side to turn the game to my favor.
Thu 22, Dec 2022, 2:43 pm

Solo: Yes, I went on the attack too early and lost my heroes.
Thu 22, Dec 2022, 3:34 pm