Vicotnic: Yea, your hero stack seemed way to strong for my little apprentice assassain so I decieded he had to burn the land and legg it. Gg
Tue 25, Dec 2018, 12:22 pm

Vicotnic: And yea, Im up for a rematch next year, I probobly take a little break from warbarons now the tourney is over (all these 1 day games has been abit taxing, dragged on for so long), but when I get back I'll gladly play you again :)
Tue 25, Dec 2018, 12:25 pm

Chazar: Good game, gratulations for winning the tournament!!!!! :) I think my biggest mistake here was going for the L3 ruin in the outer rim first, rather than the ones in the center which are close to each other - the game would have been much more interesting if our ruin hunters had met there instead. Let me know when you are up for game! (I prefer longer turn limits, since sometimes I can play multiple times a day sometimes not at all for a few days.)
Tue 25, Dec 2018, 12:32 pm

Chazar: Darn, your secret strategy is save...the replay always crashes at turn 11. :(
Tue 25, Dec 2018, 12:41 pm

makmak: Also can see replay until turn 11 and don't know the end :-(
Wed 26, Dec 2018, 2:33 am

makmak: Congrats to both of you
Wed 26, Dec 2018, 2:34 am

makmak: btw Noone ended the tour undefeated, Vic and Chasar had one defeat each
Wed 26, Dec 2018, 2:35 am

makmak: I believe it was a great tournament with high quality and strong competition :-)
Wed 26, Dec 2018, 2:41 am

makmak: Congrats Vic
Wed 26, Dec 2018, 2:41 am

Chazar: @makmak: Thanks for the to tournament! Let's have another one!
Wed 26, Dec 2018, 8:07 am

Igor: The 'secret strategy' was included in more fast expansion that is seen already in turns 9-10. Looks that the center dominate over outer circle. May be also Sorc. is better here than Ranger. Makmak you organized nice tournament. Looking for another one, may be play-off system with double elimination for 32 players, or so.
Wed 26, Dec 2018, 10:46 am

makmak: It seems there is interest for a 3x3 tour, if GG and Hadesha can field a team we have minimum 8 teams. Check forum
Wed 26, Dec 2018, 11:03 am

Vicotnic: Thanks for all the gratulation and big thanks to makmak for getting the tournament going in the first place!
Wed 26, Dec 2018, 11:04 am

Vicotnic: Chazar: yea I think the outer rim is a trap, or should at least be considered and after thought. Too much resources are packed into the center of the map so I think top priority must be to race for it. That was pretty much what happened here, I got center first and with all the gold, items and dragons I got from there it was over.
Wed 26, Dec 2018, 11:08 am

SnotlinG: GG - well played!
Fri 14, Dec 2018, 8:30 pm

Vicotnic: Gg, tack så mycket :)
Fri 14, Dec 2018, 10:10 pm

Igor: gg. strange game without heroes to turn 6 and 8. forgot to think during the game and many abilities were not realised
Wed 28, Nov 2018, 3:49 am

Chazar: Yeah, lost my hero on turn 1, did not get another until turn 6, so I was desperate and tried something new here.
Wed 28, Nov 2018, 6:26 am

makmak: Spooky game indeed !!!
Sat 1, Dec 2018, 2:46 pm

makmak: I suppose both of you would consider yourself far behind in expansion
Sat 1, Dec 2018, 2:46 pm

KGB: Well played. A fun game all around. Good luck in the next round.
Wed 7, Nov 2018, 5:08 am

Igor: Tough game on all the map almost to the end. Thamks for the game.
Wed 7, Nov 2018, 8:16 am

KGB: Well played
Mon 8, Oct 2018, 5:01 am

Vicotnic: Thanks, good luck in the 2v2 and in your last game :)
Mon 8, Oct 2018, 10:42 pm

fantastory: Yeah we count on you!!!
Sat 27, Oct 2018, 11:44 am

SnotlinG: GG - well played!
Thu 4, Oct 2018, 10:51 pm

Chazar: Great game! Lots of interesting turns. The paradropped barbarian and dragon were incredibly lucky for me.
Sun 7, Oct 2018, 12:50 pm

makmak: well played
Wed 26, Sep 2018, 9:17 pm

Chazar: Very interesting game, thanks! Nearly lost hope mid-game.
Thu 27, Sep 2018, 7:48 am

makmak: It was very hard for me to play 3 tour games in big map, I lost track and made mistakes
Thu 27, Sep 2018, 8:02 am

Chazar: Yes, same map is very irritating - I used the "notes for sitter" feature inside of each game to keep track of enemy hero sightings, etc.
Thu 27, Sep 2018, 5:37 pm

makmak: in the smaller maps I kept track. In this round map is big, time was short and workload demanding. :-(
Thu 27, Sep 2018, 8:38 pm

KGB: GG. I lost all my starting armies / heros on turn 2 and 3 in 85% battles. I could never recover.
Sat 22, Sep 2018, 3:16 am

fantastory: Better luck next time :)
Sat 22, Sep 2018, 7:17 am

SnotlinG: GG!
Wed 19, Sep 2018, 6:58 am

SnotlinG: GG!
Thu 30, Aug 2018, 7:29 am

makmak: Well played, I lost fair and square
Thu 30, Aug 2018, 10:53 am

KGB: GG and good luck in the next round. After your reveal of what you had I knew there was no way I was coming back.
Fri 10, Aug 2018, 12:01 am

KGB: Plus this speeds up the start of round 3. Some players were finished with round 2 in early June so they've been off almost 2 months waiting for the tourney to catch up.
Fri 10, Aug 2018, 12:07 am

Chazar: GG your invasion to my homeland scared me, but I figured the center & south were more important.
Fri 10, Aug 2018, 2:09 pm

KGB: Might have been a better invasion if I didn't accidentally kill one of my early heroes and lose my Sorceress to yours. The loss of those 2 heroes so early crippled me.
Sat 11, Aug 2018, 2:23 am

KGB: What's sad about that is that up till then I was having a 'perfect' game thanks to some luck on the neutrals where I hadn't lost a man. Sigh.
Sat 11, Aug 2018, 2:24 am

Chazar: Early Hero loss kills so many games. Ladder games ought to start with 3-5 cities to get rid of this luck factor.
Sun 12, Aug 2018, 11:44 am

KGB: I'd rather they start with 8-10 units because many maps can't handle 3-5 cities due to few cities / map size. But all could handle initially having 8-12 starting units
Tue 14, Aug 2018, 8:54 pm

KGB: In my case one of my 2 heroes losses was my fault due to accidentally killing my hero. I reached L2 with my Assassin on like turn 5 and forgot to increase UL to 10 and died opening a L1 ruin. I almost smashed my mouse when I hit it in a fit of anger.
Tue 14, Aug 2018, 8:58 pm

AtomicDustmen: This is not a good map for me. GG KGB
Sat 4, Aug 2018, 4:00 am

KGB: GG. I managed to be just 1 step ahead and that let me win all the early hero battles to control the center.
Sat 4, Aug 2018, 7:24 am

Chazar: Many hero exchanges early in, that was crazy. I was lucky though.
Sat 28, Jul 2018, 5:02 pm

AtomicDustmen: I was never in this one. GG
Sat 28, Jul 2018, 2:19 am

Chazar: Thanks! GG
Sat 28, Jul 2018, 7:42 am

KGB: GG. The early 50/50 hero battle that went my way decided it.
Wed 25, Jul 2018, 4:38 am

AtomicDustmen: GG. May have been a different game If I hadn't of lost to your Assassin in mid of map.
Sat 14, Jul 2018, 5:51 pm

b16: Yes. Lucky Battle for me GG
Sat 14, Jul 2018, 6:04 pm

Goldfish:
Fri 6, Jul 2018, 9:03 pm

fantastory:
Fri 6, Jul 2018, 9:06 pm

Stafford: I can't believe I lost that one. Outplayed and outmanoeuvered. GG
Wed 4, Jul 2018, 3:06 am

Chazar: Thanks! The only game that I tried without a sorceress. Bad idea. Very tough and interesting game to play!
Wed 4, Jul 2018, 9:25 am

Moonknight: I feel like I drew the short straw getting you two in my group!
Tue 26, Jun 2018, 7:02 pm

Moonknight: good game, kept me trapped in my corner while you conquered the middle land. good luck in "your" tournament, haha
Tue 26, Jun 2018, 6:41 pm

makmak: I didn't expect to go that far...
Tue 26, Jun 2018, 7:33 pm

makmak: I noticed your location early, this helped a lot. When you lost the battle at sea with sorceress got an advantage that I exploited to build a robust position
Tue 26, Jun 2018, 10:39 pm

Igor: I promissed to congrat you if you win. Congrats! :)
Mon 25, Jun 2018, 6:37 pm

makmak: I did a miracle !!!!!
Mon 25, Jun 2018, 8:36 pm

makmak: Defeating the greatest player in his own map is a trophy !!
Mon 25, Jun 2018, 8:37 pm

Igor: I also promised you another duel here. Feel free to join if you don't mind
Tue 26, Jun 2018, 3:32 pm

makmak: I can not perform miracles every day, you are better player than me in general and of course also in this map
Tue 26, Jun 2018, 5:01 pm

Igor: if so let me take the weakest 1st hero, Sorceress, this can be additional challenge how to use her here by the best way
Tue 26, Jun 2018, 6:14 pm

Moonknight: well played, I got off to a rocky start with my first two heroes
Wed 13, Jun 2018, 9:56 pm

Igor: Thank you, gg. Funny thing with my minotaur landed on your corner.
Thu 14, Jun 2018, 7:22 am

Tim: Good Game makmak. I really knows now the map and learned many. When starts the Tournament? ^^
Sat 9, Jun 2018, 3:39 pm

makmak: This map is twisted minded, gg
Sat 9, Jun 2018, 4:00 pm

makmak: a 2x2 tournament will be designed, I suppose HN will bring a team or 2 :-)
Sat 9, Jun 2018, 4:00 pm

Chazar: Sure!
Sat 9, Jun 2018, 11:13 pm

makmak: mention maps in related thread ;-)
Mon 11, Jun 2018, 2:28 am

KGB: 6 turns. Just watched the replay. This map isn't really worthy of being used in tourneys any more. Needs a revamp thanks to the Witch. Also needs 1v1 on opposite sides of map instead of random because that involves too much luck on which direction each person sends their Witch.
Thu 7, Jun 2018, 1:00 am

Tim: Yes you bring it on the Point KGB. It was bad that MK finds me and decided to attack soon. I dont see it coming. If i had more Luck in Battle it could be the different but its better to have the Opponents on the direct other Side.
Thu 7, Jun 2018, 6:58 am

Igor: This thing can be sometimes here. Remembering I played with a guy with the same start position as in this game, and he won with his Assassin over my Barbarian. Thinking he didn't expect to meet me so soon. I think such surprices bring fun in the game, better to scout where the opponent start from, before making own tactic for the game. Otherwise some curious results can be, as both mine and one in this game. Sorceress may become an empty place here if to choose right heroes.
Thu 7, Jun 2018, 1:59 pm

KGB: Igor, the problem is that in 5 turns you don't have time or armies to scout. The Sorceress can reach the other player on turn 3-4 so it's even fewer than 5 in some cases. In this game MK was in his home land on turn 4. There is just NO way to prepare for it.
Thu 7, Jun 2018, 9:51 pm

KGB: Definitely this game was 100% decided by luck of which way the Sorceress went for both players and 0% on skill. That's not good.
Thu 7, Jun 2018, 9:52 pm

Vicotnic: To me it looked like Moon got lucky in multiple battles, he also got first turn and got a turn 2 hero offer while Tim did not (same goes for turn 5). Even the last turn if Tim managed to kill the Sorc and retake Targen he would be in it. He would have a stronger sorc to counteract Moon superior economy (not saying he would be in a great position but certainly it would not be over).\n\nI don't think the map is to blame for that as much as the inheritade inbalances of hero offers and going first (I think there should be some compensation for going second and I think hero offers should be mirrored for both players gated by gold).\n\nI think the map is very good for 1v1s, having 5 viable first hero choices (I really don't think this is one of the maps where the Sorc totally dominates, I think this is much better in a Sorc era then River Crossing) and a lot of game to it. I have often considered if it would be better with oppsoit starting position since it is somewhat of a disadvantage to have your opponent in the position next to you in the counter clockwise direction but I don't think it is needed. Having played the map a lot I do kind of enjoy the variance it gives to the game with random start locations.
Fri 8, Jun 2018, 2:11 am

Vicotnic: hmm, no pharagraphs in comments makes my post a headache to read, but yea...
Fri 8, Jun 2018, 2:12 am

Igor: KGB, in this game there was a scout as a start unit, but no one used him for scouting but for searching a ruin. Oftenly scout, elf or so is a start unit, well for scouting. Also a way is to build scout in the capital city, he can watch one of neighbour corners on turn 3. The main Tim's problem here he chose wrong 1st hero, should be Barbarian, Assassin or Vakyria at my look, but he chose Sorceress and sent her far away. This was 50% of the bad result. Other 50% is some luck for Moonknight who sent Sorceress to the Tim's side when Tim's one was out. I think there was a kind of luck here as dice in hero battle.
Fri 8, Jun 2018, 7:53 am

Tim: At the End dont blame the Map. I have lost because of not knowing the Map so good and making not so good decisions. Its only hard to loose on Turn 6. Congrats MK. ;)
Fri 8, Jun 2018, 8:20 am

KGB: Vicotnic, the first 3 turns are simultaneous. So there is no going first advantange until turn 4. By turn 3 MK was already in position with his Witch
Fri 8, Jun 2018, 5:49 pm

KGB: Igor, all I'm suggesting is that you adjust the map settings for 1-1 play. You can have multiple 1-1 settings. One of which can be totally random as it is now. The other can be opposite corners. Let the players pick the kind of game they want.
Fri 8, Jun 2018, 5:50 pm

KGB: I haven't seen any of the other games end yet on this map. But I'll be curiosus to see if anyone takes anything besides Sorceress as 1st hero. I've looked at a couple ladder games recently and everyone in those took her 1st too. I've done the same in my practise games for round 2. She's BY FAR the best first choice because she can raid immediately without need for boats.
Fri 8, Jun 2018, 5:52 pm

Igor: She can move over water. So what? She is weak and can't do something other than seaching lvl.1 ruins, and even this brings risk for her with her UL+10. And she can attack empty cities like a crow. That's all for her for first 5-6 turns or so, I think.
Fri 8, Jun 2018, 7:10 pm

SnotlinG: In my 3 recent tournamentgames on this map neither I or my opponent picked the Sorceress as the first hero...
Fri 8, Jun 2018, 8:31 pm

Vicotnic: The tournament does not have simultanious turns (luckily).
Fri 8, Jun 2018, 10:56 pm

KGB: Vicotnic, aren't first 3 turns always simultanous? The rest aren't but the first 3 are.
Sat 9, Jun 2018, 1:39 am

KGB: Igor, she may be Weak but that waterwalk is huge. Watch the replay again. On turn 2 (turn 2!!) MK's Witch opens a ruin in Tim's start area. The is literally nothing he can do to defend that. On turn 3 he could have razed a couple of cities with a bit of luck but MK guessed wrong on where he looked. But regardless he knew exactly where Tim was and so he directed all his armies there. That's a huge advantage for having the Witch as a 1st hero since she is 100% guaranteed to open those L1 ruins for the 500 gold.
Sat 9, Jun 2018, 1:41 am

KGB: I could never imagine not taking her 1st because of the Waterwalk and guaranteed opening of all those L1 ruins for 500 gold in every start spot. She can't be beaten to any of them.
Sat 9, Jun 2018, 1:43 am

KGB: Just watched another game on this map MK/Nobibla. Exact same start spots. Same 1st heros. This time MK guessed wrong way and lost. Took a few more turns but on the replay it's clear he was going to lose very early on.
Sat 9, Jun 2018, 1:51 am

Igor: KGB, tournament games have separate turns from the 1st one. Sorc. with only 10 UL haven't 100% chance in searching lvl.1 ruin, and even less chance when the ruin is protected by eagle where Sorc. is 20+10+10 and eagle is 13+5. Total chance for Sorc. to search this ruin is 60-70% at my look, more than 50 but much less than 100. Too big risc for 1st hero in the game. Sorc looks overvalued, though she may be comfortable to play and this is why some players like her. Here Sorc. as the 1st hero may be a way to loss if the opponents chose better hero.
Sat 9, Jun 2018, 3:48 am

Vicotnic: Well while Sorc runs around opening ruins other heroes conqure cities. Sorceress can be used here but like Igor says it is a high risk choice, she is really far from 100% to take the L1 and even vs tier1 units she is pretty much never 90% to take a city and all L2s are guarded, it is not easy to level her up. \n\nAlso in this game MK ends turn 2 in a L1 ruin on an unknown chore, with a different pathing from Tim that could mean death. Again in t3 she is in a very vulenarable position, Tim (and many players does) started eagles had she been spotted and a fighting hero was around she would likely be dead.\n\nI played a lot of games on this map and often vs Sorc starts, I'm conviced that this is one of the map where she is least of a problem (for many reasons she is a problematic hero that really brings high variance into the game, but on this map she is not overpowered like on so many others). \n\nWhat might be a problem is to be counter clockwise of your opponent, but I'm not conviced that it is a mayor problem and it actually has some perks to (also the four starting positions are not completely balanced either, still I think it is the best map for 1v1 around).
Sat 9, Jun 2018, 11:21 am

KGB: She is 100% chance to search the ruin because it only is guarded by 1 skeleton. There is a bug in the UL combat where 10+ is 100% guaranteed to kill a skeleton (but not a Ghoul). Killing the Eagle on top requires 1 extra unit on turn 1. By time she searches a 2nd ruin she will be L2 and with a combat increase will kill the Eagle
Sat 9, Jun 2018, 6:19 pm

KGB: So that bug means any hero with 10+ UL is key on turn 1 because they can get that 500 gold bonus. Sorcesess is just extra nice because she can then walk directly to other islands and get lots more 500 gold because with combat increase at L2 she will kill that Eagle.
Sat 9, Jun 2018, 6:23 pm

KGB: My point remains that the map needs 2 options for 1v1 (random and opposite side). Not sure why that's such a big deal to do. I'm not asking for changes to the map itself.
Sat 9, Jun 2018, 6:24 pm

KGB: http://www.warbarons.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2173&sid=ce20781608458f67de6410766b15c5f2
Sat 9, Jun 2018, 6:30 pm

Igor: There is 3 skeletons in that ruins, not one. As I understand you KGB, there is a bug which is not fixed and here is the problem, not in map and not in Sorc.
Sat 9, Jun 2018, 7:42 pm

KGB: The number of skeletons doesn't matter. None of them can get a hit on a hero with 10+ UL.
Sat 9, Jun 2018, 8:27 pm

KGB: I like the bug because I like the fact it's a free 500 gold with no risk. I assumed you did that on purpose.
Sat 9, Jun 2018, 8:28 pm

KGB: The problem with the map remains in the random start spots. Do you not understand that? That's why I asked for an opposite side start option for 1v1. Random starts just means player who goes *right direction* gets a lucky break. a MUCH bigger break than who goes first or who goes second.
Sat 9, Jun 2018, 8:30 pm

Igor: KGB, I don't see any problem with start spots here, I like it as it is, sorry man :)
Sat 9, Jun 2018, 9:02 pm

Igor: But in future, if this bug will be saved as it is, I may change 3 skeletons on 1 ghoul or on random undead defenders. Now I don't think to do this, but may be in future.
Sat 9, Jun 2018, 9:35 pm

KGB: OK, your call. Doubt I will play this map in the future in any ladder or tourney game in 1v1 mode. Really sad given it would take 1 minute to create multiple start options for 1v1 games.
Sat 9, Jun 2018, 11:34 pm

Moonknight: I almost always get a hero offer second turn after getting the 500 gold in the first ruin. That's why I always take Sorceress first. Even if she dies in an 85% chance on the next ruin by herself, I already have another hero going.
Sun 10, Jun 2018, 3:46 am

Igor: I think a way to improve own style of playing on a map is to hear experts playing on it. If to apply Sorc. style, the result can be worthy of it, when the opponent uses better heroes. But Sorc. is looking so easy to play.
Sun 10, Jun 2018, 6:16 am

Moonknight: I am definitely no expert on this map, it is my kryptonite for these tournaments
Mon 11, Jun 2018, 1:48 am

Moonknight: which probably means there is a better first hero play
Mon 11, Jun 2018, 1:49 am

Igor: 'kryptonite', where did you find this word? Hope not Sorc. said this to you :) Yes you're right there are some better heroes here. Try to watch for example Vicontic's games, or may be my ones, and perhaps you will see something usefull for you, other than Sorc.
Mon 11, Jun 2018, 7:41 am

Igor: A so long discussion this is. I think this is mostly about Sorceress, which KGB count as overpowerfull. Really, she is indispensable on maps where ruins mean much. But on maps when cities mean more than ruins Sorceress seems very weak hero. The best maps for Sorceress, at my look, are Airstream and Vortex where all take her to search lvl.2 ruins. In other cases other heroes may be better her. But she is very attractable because of easy movement over water and fast selfdevelopment. Other than seaching ruins Sorceress can attack empty cities or cities defended by single infantry, thus she can be as a mighty crow as well. Somebody count Sorceress overpowerfull, somebody may count that hopes on her are overvalued. Anyway I think that every player himself can decide what a hero to use.
Mon 11, Jun 2018, 10:31 am

Vicotnic: Actually it is possible to have multiple option for 1v1 start spot (I did not know this), adding the option to guarantee cross position would not be bad, I mean you don't have to use it but having it as an option would not hurt. I'm still of the opinion that the current start positions are fine and adds to the replayability of the map but I see nothing wrong with an option for cross map play.
Mon 11, Jun 2018, 2:44 pm

Igor: I don't like clones of map. If you see the map with definite and good known geography you should know that all the conditions of this map are the same as they were before, there are no variants. This is why I will not do another conditions, comparing whith what they are now. I understand that there are players who like mirrow start spots, but there are a lot of maps with them, I don't wish to spoil Central Sahara map. May be in future I will change undead guards in corner ruins, and may be change guards on ruins with money in the center(seems nobody uses them), but this will be... in future, I don't know when. As Piranha and Snotling like to answer: this is in to-do list, in future.
Mon 11, Jun 2018, 5:48 pm

KGB: The discussion was not about the sorceress. It's ALWAYS been about the random starting spots. We just talked about the Sorceress too. If you believe strategy games should limit randomness as much as possible then why is the first thing that happens 'random starting spots' which just increases luck in terms of where you go.
Tue 12, Jun 2018, 12:24 am

KGB: It doesn't even have to be pure opposite corner starts. It can be player 1 on the left 2 spots and player 2 on the right 2 spots so at least you know which way your opponent is instead of being randomly surprised on turn 2-3.
Tue 12, Jun 2018, 12:25 am

Vicotnic: I actually used the ruins with gold in the center a couple of times. I don't think changing the guard would be adviceable, making it to weak would probobly unbalance the Sorc.
Tue 12, Jun 2018, 9:28 am

Igor: I thought nobody uses them. Good to hear they are useful now. As for me, I play almost without ruins here.
Tue 12, Jun 2018, 1:15 pm

Igor: I started a game on Central Sahara with Sorc. as 1st hero. Never had here so weak hero, only searching lvl.1 ruins.
Wed 13, Jun 2018, 12:42 pm

makmak: @KGB: Your perception of overpowered sorceress in Sahara is erroneous. This map is full of reversed ruins illusions and traps. One of the illusions is that sorceress would be the right 1st hero. Sorceress in Sahara as 1st hero imho is disadvantage. If you chose sorceress that you say is too powerful most probably you might not be qualified to next round...
Thu 14, Jun 2018, 3:39 pm

smursh: well played
Wed 6, Jun 2018, 12:28 am

SnotlinG: GG!
Wed 6, Jun 2018, 2:46 pm

SnotlinG: GG!
Wed 6, Jun 2018, 2:46 pm

nunno18: GG and good luck for the tournament
Thu 14, Jun 2018, 12:29 am

SnotlinG: GG - well played!
Tue 5, Jun 2018, 9:32 am

Vicotnic: gg, tack. Svårt att återhämta sig efter att jag fångade assassain, dog din barb också tidigt? En fråga bara, när kicka '80'% win reglen in? Måste jag hålla 80% i början av min runda?
Tue 5, Jun 2018, 10:22 am

SnotlinG: Ja min assassin blev lite övermodig :(
Tue 5, Jun 2018, 12:42 pm

SnotlinG: 80% i början av din turn ja
Tue 5, Jun 2018, 12:42 pm

SnotlinG: Min barbar dog i en ruin om jag minns rätt
Tue 5, Jun 2018, 12:42 pm

Vicotnic: aa, surt, höll utkick efter honom hela matchen men han dök aldrig upp.
Tue 5, Jun 2018, 2:29 pm

smursh: good game
Sun 3, Jun 2018, 9:49 pm

Vicotnic: gg
Sun 3, Jun 2018, 10:02 pm

Vicotnic: :)
Fri 1, Jun 2018, 11:21 pm

nobibla: well done. no chance
Thu 31, May 2018, 10:16 pm

Paplonix: Thank you for the game...your perseverance was driving me mad :-)
Thu 31, May 2018, 10:32 pm

nobibla: ;-)))
Thu 31, May 2018, 11:28 pm

Mitch: gg
Thu 31, May 2018, 3:17 am

Paplonix: Congrats, I fought bad luck more than you :-(
Tue 29, May 2018, 9:38 pm

fantastory: It is common. Talk to nobibla. I bring bad luck.
Tue 29, May 2018, 10:30 pm

KGB: GG and Good Luck in round 2
Mon 28, May 2018, 10:25 pm

Tim: Thanks for the hard Fight mowhar. Bad that you dont Attack with your last Heroes. Would be nice to see. Maybe you had luck in the Battle and beat me. Why dont you take this last Chance before surrender?
Sat 26, May 2018, 5:25 pm

mowhar: To be honest, because my private life is a shitstorm at the moment, and i wanted to get rid of a thing that i need to think about. Also, when I sent my heroes to attack you deep into your lands, I knew i would need luck to get to keep enough units to be able to keep the invasion going. When I saw the battle results, i just felt that i lost too much too have a real chance any longer. The units that joined my paladin could not reach your city, and that became the straw that broke the camels back...
Sat 26, May 2018, 9:24 pm

mowhar: but you are right! i should have played one more turn!
Sat 26, May 2018, 9:24 pm

Tim: I know this in my Life too. Already take a break from this Game a Time before. Was a good Choice. Its good to make a break sometimes here. Good Luck in Private. Good Game!
Mon 28, May 2018, 8:05 am

Moonknight: solid game nunno
Wed 23, May 2018, 3:18 am

nunno18: you did well to get my inner cities after you got center it was my loss. see you soon hopefully not in the next round :)
Wed 23, May 2018, 9:05 am

fantastory: What can I say. This small map with strong defended cities is a total luck. Additionally starting with elemental makes it "whho will attack whom"
Tue 22, May 2018, 6:21 pm

fantastory: I wish you get better against Paplonix.
Tue 22, May 2018, 6:22 pm

nobibla: thx, you took your luck. it is not against the rules. but i am disapointed.
Tue 22, May 2018, 6:25 pm

Celeb: Thanks and good luck...
Mon 21, May 2018, 6:23 pm

nunno18: thanks it was a good game. all the best for you
Sun 27, May 2018, 12:26 pm

Stafford: GG - thanks!
Mon 21, May 2018, 1:11 pm

Chazar: I was really lucky to turn this one around with my terribly slow expansion in the southwest, thanks to catching your sorceress.
Mon 21, May 2018, 9:40 am

Paplonix: Congrats, well deserved victory. You had a plan.
Sun 20, May 2018, 11:03 pm

AtomicDustmen: Thanks Paplonix, GG
Mon 21, May 2018, 4:40 am

Balian: GG
Sat 19, May 2018, 8:31 am

Vicotnic: Gg, seemes like Crom was watching over my barb.
Sat 19, May 2018, 8:47 am

Balian: yes:) good luck for the tournament
Sun 20, May 2018, 4:34 pm

Vicotnic: thanks mate :)
Sun 20, May 2018, 7:01 pm

makmak: Well played, however you have to admit you had a lot of luck
Fri 18, May 2018, 9:43 pm

Todzo: SnotlinG had incredible luck in my tourney earlier... he is on a roll!
Sat 19, May 2018, 6:07 am

Todzo: SnotlinG had incredible luck in my tourney earlier... he is on a roll!
Sat 19, May 2018, 6:07 am

SnotlinG: GG!
Sat 19, May 2018, 2:18 pm

KGB: GG
Sat 19, May 2018, 12:24 am

Paplonix: Congrats, well done.
Thu 17, May 2018, 9:40 pm

nobibla: Thanks
Fri 18, May 2018, 5:16 am

Moonknight: good game mitch
Thu 17, May 2018, 1:37 pm

makeixo: gg
Wed 16, May 2018, 5:00 pm

makeixo: gg
Wed 16, May 2018, 5:01 pm

SnotlinG: GG
Wed 16, May 2018, 7:58 pm

makeixo: gg
Wed 16, May 2018, 5:01 pm

makmak: gg I think you had some chances at the time you surrendered
Wed 16, May 2018, 5:28 pm

makeixo: In this game I dont think so, but in the other ones I had.
Wed 16, May 2018, 8:45 pm

makeixo: I have surrendered because of the turn time. One or one and a half for 3 games is just not enough.
Wed 16, May 2018, 8:48 pm

makmak: I understand, I have some times that I have more games than what I can handle. I try to have less games in peak work periods and more in loose periods but I can't always handle. 0 Minutes ago
Wed 16, May 2018, 10:43 pm

makmak: I had an advantage but it was still undecided. I needed one more victory and I was very cautious
Wed 16, May 2018, 10:45 pm

Moonknight: good game Celeb
Tue 15, May 2018, 9:58 pm

Celeb: Not really but u played well...
Wed 16, May 2018, 9:57 pm

AtomicDustmen: GG. Thought you would have continued on though
Tue 15, May 2018, 11:36 pm

fantastory: Nice played.
Tue 15, May 2018, 11:55 pm

nobibla: good one
Sun 13, May 2018, 12:21 pm

fantastory: thanks, bad luck with first sorceress you had
Sun 13, May 2018, 6:59 pm

nobibla: yeah, really terrible
Sun 13, May 2018, 10:38 pm

nobibla: but you did a goood job
Sun 13, May 2018, 10:38 pm

SnotlinG: GG!
Sat 12, May 2018, 11:35 pm

SirDrinkALot: The Battle at Emyn Muil with about 60% for me in which your Barb and Pala survived decided everything. Bad Luck for me. At least your Barb should have died. But Congratulations and good luck in the Tournament.
Fri 11, May 2018, 10:21 am

Goldfish: yes, that was lucky for me.. thanks for the game!
Fri 11, May 2018, 10:24 am

LordNerevar: I forgot to move a scout with my valkyria army across the ford - so my battering ram did not have enough movement. Otherwise your horselord army would have -5 strengh and I would have a chance.
Fri 11, May 2018, 10:14 am

Balian: Yes, that was close, good luck for me, otherwise my chances are low, I couldn't defend my eastern cities...
Fri 11, May 2018, 2:05 pm

Balian: anyway, good game, thank you!
Fri 11, May 2018, 2:06 pm

LordNerevar: That hero offer with 2 elementals decided the game... thank you as well and good luck in the tournament.
Fri 11, May 2018, 3:01 pm

nobibla: well done
Thu 10, May 2018, 12:24 pm

AtomicDustmen: thanks nobibla, GG
Fri 11, May 2018, 1:00 am

KGB: GG
Thu 10, May 2018, 6:50 pm

Todzo: good game, you expanded fast
Wed 9, May 2018, 1:30 am

makmak: gg, it was even until you lost the battle with sorceress and barb
Wed 9, May 2018, 1:51 am

Solo: gg
Tue 8, May 2018, 8:56 pm

Solo: gg
Tue 8, May 2018, 8:55 pm

Chazar: Thanks! Wäre was your sorceress? Expexted her to raue my backlands anytime now?
Tue 8, May 2018, 8:59 pm

Chazar: Ugh, sorry autocorrect. I meant: where was your sorceress? Expected her to raze my backland any time now?
Tue 8, May 2018, 9:03 pm

Solo: I moved her to east, trying to search free level 1 ruins and capture rear cities.
Tue 8, May 2018, 9:08 pm

Solo: I did not played this map before this tournament. And I lost all 3 games. It seems like I don't know how to play starting in the s-e corner. Is this map really not balanced?
Tue 8, May 2018, 9:10 pm

Art: Looks like NW expand really faster.
Thu 10, May 2018, 8:10 am

Omen: Good luck with the rest of the tournament pal.
Tue 8, May 2018, 7:29 pm

IsoA: Thanks
Tue 8, May 2018, 7:57 pm

IsoA: Nice game, one decisive battle.
Tue 8, May 2018, 7:57 pm

Solo: Well done! :)
Tue 8, May 2018, 7:57 am

Stafford: Thanks, GG!
Wed 9, May 2018, 12:32 am

Tim: Good Game Smursh. Hope i can have a Revanche soon!
Mon 7, May 2018, 6:15 am

smursh: be happy to play a rematch.
Mon 7, May 2018, 10:55 am

Tim: Maybe in the Tournament. ;)
Wed 9, May 2018, 8:43 pm

smursh: gg
Sun 6, May 2018, 12:39 pm

smursh: gg
Sat 5, May 2018, 7:57 pm

Igor: Good game.
Thu 3, May 2018, 8:45 pm

Balian: Thank you, good game!
Thu 3, May 2018, 10:08 pm

Balian: So I'm the first who lost a game, we have been too fast, Igor;-)
Thu 3, May 2018, 10:12 pm

Igor: The faster the better :)
Thu 3, May 2018, 10:24 pm

makmak: Good luck and have fun !
Tue 1, May 2018, 5:51 am

Vicotnic: Gl !
Tue 1, May 2018, 9:12 am

makeixo: gl to all of you :)
Tue 1, May 2018, 10:03 am

fantastory: Have fun :)
Tue 1, May 2018, 1:14 pm

Moonknight: good luck to all!
Tue 1, May 2018, 8:00 pm

KGB: Good luck to everyone.
Wed 2, May 2018, 12:49 am

Todzo: cool, a tourney!
Wed 2, May 2018, 5:25 am

fantastory: First map is uneven - east side is much better, and there is catapult city there defended only by dwarf
Fri 4, May 2018, 2:02 pm

makmak: @fantastory: the defenders and production are random it is not in favor of the east
Fri 4, May 2018, 2:28 pm

Moonknight: there is a catapult city in the Southeast defend only by a dwarf, but Southeast isn't necessarily the best route for the Eastern start
Fri 4, May 2018, 2:46 pm

fantastory: @makmak let you check southern east city
Fri 4, May 2018, 4:08 pm

makmak: ok I understood which city you are mentioning, this is not random but this is not easier to get from east than west
Fri 4, May 2018, 4:57 pm

makmak: imho if there is an advantage in this map, it is to the player who makes the first move but this happens to most small maps
Mon 7, May 2018, 12:35 pm

IsoA: I think that for a small map this feels very balanced and flexible.
Tue 8, May 2018, 10:17 am

makmak: Anyone knows if next phase starts when all games are finished???
Wed 16, May 2018, 7:34 pm

SnotlinG: As soon as a group is complete, the players will advance to next group. As soon as a new group is filled, all the games in that group will start.
Wed 16, May 2018, 9:03 pm

makmak: thx :-)
Thu 17, May 2018, 12:19 am

makmak: Played vs Snotling in rivers, will play vs Igor in Sahara, If I qualify I suppose I ll play vs KGB in michoaquan map. Beat the map creators :-))))
Sat 19, May 2018, 11:56 pm

fantastory: A (igor moon tim makmak)
Wed 30, May 2018, 10:21 am

fantastory: B (smursh snotling vicotnic nunno)
Wed 30, May 2018, 10:21 am

fantastory: C (atomic chazar/stafford kgb sirdrink/b16)
Wed 30, May 2018, 10:21 am

fantastory: D (isoa goldfish fanta stafford/chazar)
Wed 30, May 2018, 10:21 am

makmak: I play against Igor in Sahara and have not lost in turn 8 !!!! This rare incident s a medal by itself !!!
Mon 4, Jun 2018, 10:36 pm

makmak: I try for the impossible, defeating Igor in Sahara is impossible but it worth trying...
Mon 4, Jun 2018, 11:41 pm

makmak: Congrats Vic
Wed 26, Dec 2018, 2:37 am

makmak: makmak: btw Noone ended the tour undefeated, Vic and Chasar had one defeat each
Wed 26, Dec 2018, 2:37 am

makmak: High quality and strong competion :-)
Wed 26, Dec 2018, 2:39 am